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CGN2010 (majadiliano | michango)
Mstari 243:
 
C) on deleting or warning tags I agree to your caveat in principle; but still the best time to put a marker is when it is visible as a new entry, otherwise it disappears and stays. In a number of cultural entries there will always be space for debate what is appropriate or not; but in cases like mbegha (as it was) I see no question - just compare to the existing [[mbega]]. This is rather what Kiswahili deserves. '''[[Mtumiaji:Kipala|Kipala]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:Kipala#top|majadiliano]])''' 15:39, 18 Septemba 2010 (UTC)
 
:::First, I haven’t mentioned the ownership before, so maybe you have heard it from other users too. New contributors should not just be tolerated but encouraged. Yes, if you have a good day, you may let loose from your routine, but that’s not the point.
 
:::What’s the apparent quality of articles worth, if there is no community to develop it? User will mature, and if there are user, so will the wikipedia content. I think we all can see why everyone is here, I am not sure if you understood what I meant with “interactive”. Facebook is just an example for an online community that has a different kind of interaction. Of course, wikipedias content would allow for a lot more than (for example) Facebook.
 
:::If you have critic for the en:Mbegha, please be more specific and please tell so on en. It’s a stub and its mainly from two highly regarded secondary sources, which are also listed and accessible online. As you have chosen a title with brackets, and since you haven’t responded to my previous questions (above) regarding those brackets, I want to leave a few comments:
 
:::For comparison, [[:en:Wikipedia:Article titles]] recommends article titles to be 1) Recognizable, 2) Natural, 3) Precise, 4) Concise and 5) Consistent. As of point 2, the English Wikipedia is mostly avoiding brackets, while I know the German wikipedia to use brackets in excess (mainly argued for point 3). Now, sw:wp has a lot of those brackets – proportionally many more than on other wiki-languages. The first thing I thought of were inexperienced user, getting stuck with such page titles (we all know the countless articles, loaded with wrongly set round and square brackets). The next thing is the question “natural versus precise” and how Tanzanians and Kenyans would choose? I know people, finding those hidden links artificial (leading you to a page that is pretending to be something else). And the last thing is missing consistency. For towns there are forms like Mji wa…, …(mji), …, Country, … (Country), and so on. All in all reminds me of a cryptic word salad, only findable via two or three links and only linkable for experienced user. You need to be really encyclopedic to enjoy working within that.
 
:::I won’t continue contributing. I had fun working on here for those weeks, but not anymore. Its sad that despite me asking for feedback weeks ago (above), all I get is behind-the-back blackmailing (also above and various talk pages). I hope for sw to get a change. Good luck --'''[[Mtumiaji:CGN2010|CGN2010]] ([[Majadiliano ya mtumiaji:CGN2010|majadiliano]])''' 00:04, 19 Septemba 2010 (UTC)